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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: Welcome to We Are IU.

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I am your host, Nattie Meador,
associate director

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of alumni engagement at the
IU Alumni Association.

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And today's episode's a little spicy.

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We're diving into the growing
world of collegiate pickleball,

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where IU isn't just competing,
we are dominating.

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I am so excited to get into this conversation

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with our championship Indiana
University pickleball team.

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Team, how are we today?

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&gt;&gt; John Moorin: All good.

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&gt;&gt; Carter Maris: Good.

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&gt;&gt; Timber Tucker: Great.

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&gt;&gt; Mehvish Safdar: Doing great.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: I'm so glad
that you all are with us.

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I thought to get us started, we could go around
and do a bit of introductions and background.

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Carter, I'd love for you to get us started.

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Let us know your name, perhaps
what year you are at IU,

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and what got you interested in pickleball.

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&gt;&gt; Carter Maris: Yeah, so
my name is Carter Maris.

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I just finished up my freshman
year at Indiana University.

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So, I'll be a sophomore next year.

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And funny enough, my older brother
actually went to IU as well,

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and he played on the club team his senior year.

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And so, at the time, I was playing soccer.

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I played soccer my whole
life in an academy team.

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And he was telling me how fun pickleball
was when he joined the club team

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and he started to get super into it.

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And so during over a Christmas break
that he had, we, the whole family,

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went out and we started playing
and I fell in love with it,

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and it's been a journey ever since.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: That's awesome.

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How about Mehvish?

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I'd love to hear from you.

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&gt;&gt; Mehvish Safdar: Yeah.

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So, you don't want to know what
year I am in my doc program,

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but I'm currently a PhD student
at Indiana University.

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And so, yeah, my story of getting
started in pickleball is a fun one.

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So in 2022-ish, so I've been playing
pickleball for about three years now,

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I was going through kind of
like a difficult season of life,

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like just entered the doc program during COVID,
was transitioning out of collegiate sport

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and I was like I need something
competitive or just active back in my life.

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So, I Google searched pickleball in
Bloomington and I came across Timber's name.

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And I emailed him and soon enough I got into
this league that Timber ran and got a bunch

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of Bloomington uncles and started playing
recreationally and occasionally in 2022,

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and then IU pickleball, and now
I'm in the pro pickleball space.

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So, it's been a fun journey.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: That's so fun.

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I think some of us, at one time or another,
have Googled "pickleball clubs in our community"

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and I love the connection that it's brought
you and I can't wait to dive into that.

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So, you mentioned Timber.

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Timber, I'd love to get to know you a bit better

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and how you became involved
with the IU pickleball team.

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&gt;&gt; Timber Tucker: So, there was a a
student, Sam Hutner, he's just graduated.

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Sam and I had kind of started
a recreational team at IU.

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And Sam, it'd be three years ago, three years
now upcoming in September, Sam called me

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and said, "Did you know there's
competitive pickleball in college?"

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And I was like, "No, but I do know two
students we're going to call right away",

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one of them being Mehv and one of them
being Carter Wittendorf who's on our team.

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And so it's just kind of taken off from there

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and it's just been an absolute joy
in my life to be a part of this.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: That's so exciting.

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And John, how about you?

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&gt;&gt; John Moorin: So, I graduated
from IU many, many moons ago,

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but I played collegiate tennis down there.

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And so, as I was winding up my tennis career,

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friends asked us to start
playing some pickleball.

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So I went out and played for four weeks, and
I entered the US Open and I won the US Open.

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So it kind of hooked me.

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So I've been playing competitively for
the last seven or eight years and I travel

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around the country and, you know, play
in my division and really enjoy it,

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and I'm very excited to be
involved with the program.

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Timber's energy's just been magnificent.

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The kids have been terrific.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: I've always been so
curious, because I hear a lot of folks

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who are former tennis players who
have entered the space of pickleball.

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And considering that the Indiana University
team is really competitive, y'all have had a lot

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of really great success over the last few years.

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And so I know people would be very interested in
hearing how the IU pickleball team got started

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and the competitiveness of the
program versus the, you know,

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the recreational sort of side of things as well.

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So, can can someone start
us off and talk a little bit

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about what training looks like for for the team?

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And, actually, what the team name is?

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I'd love to know that as well.

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Carter, maybe you could get us started.

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&gt;&gt; Carter Maris: Yeah.

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Well, I obviously am newer to the team.

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Timber can touch a little bit more than I
can on, you know, how the team got started

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and stuff, but I will say we have
a very passionate group out there.

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And the club team as a whole is pretty big.

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I think we had, this past season, around 35,
and obviously some a little bit more dedicated

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than others, but every person on the
team brought a fun element to the team

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and made it the community that it was.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: Timber, what are
your reflections on some of the,

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as you think about how the team has grown over
the years, maybe from the start of your idea

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with Sam some few years ago, how it's
grown and what you see it to be today?

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&gt;&gt; Timber Tucker: Well, we just had
our fourth national championship.

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It's really new.

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We got into it.

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We've been to three of those
national championships,

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and that first year nobody knew us.

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We were a new team that came out of nowhere.

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We played in a big regional in Michigan and we
had, you know, we had Mehvish and we had Sam

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and Carter Wittendorf and Thea Bertolini,
who's coming back to the team this year,

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and we came out of nowhere
and won that tournament.

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Nobody knew about us, so we just
made a big splash on the scene.

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College pickleball is largely
-- the men are important,

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but it's largely about the
women since it's a co-ed sport.

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And, you know, and having quality women,

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like that first year we had
Mehv and Thea, was amazing.

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But, we've really grown along with
the sport and, like Carter said,

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we've got way more people than we can take.

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But I did kind of want to address, so what
you said, because college pickleball --

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club is the highest level of college
pickleball, there's no varsity.

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There are some very small
schools that have kind of picked

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up varsity programs that they play against us.

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So unlike other club sports, which
maybe there's a varsity, quote,

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'above' them in college, we don't have that.

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We're the highest level.

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And because we're not an NCAA sport, we have
rules that allow really top pros to play.

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Mehv's a pro and she plays.

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Jack Monroe plays for Texas, I'd
say a top 20 player in the country.

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And so it's a lot of fun to be
able to compete with those folks.

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But as far as our name, we
are the Indiana Hoosiers.

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Just like any other Indiana
team, we're the Hoosiers.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: I love that.

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That's so exciting.

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And certainly, Mehv, I think it would
be so, so cool how you're able to play

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at the professional level and
also contribute, probably,

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so well to the Indiana Hoosiers team too.

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I'd love to hear your experience on
the team and what practices look like.

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What's your day look like, as you --

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or perhaps your week look like,
as you prepare at this level?

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&gt;&gt; Mehvish Safdar: Yeah.

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So I was in Bloomington, Indiana for four years.

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And the years that Indiana pickleball existed,
I was training with the team at that point.

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And that was actually the time that
really got me into just routine practices.

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We had practices like two to three times a week.

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And a lot of times on those non-traditional
practice days, I'd play with the guys and girls

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on the IU pickleball team as well.

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So IU Pickleball Club is really what
got me started with those routine

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and regular practices, which I think is
really important to play at a high level,

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just making sure you're staying
consistent with getting practices in,

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as well as getting match play in.

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So that was another great thing
that IU pickleball was great for,

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was we were getting constant
tournament play and match play.

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You go to these college tournaments and, I
mean, I got 23 matches in at college nationals.

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So there's nothing that beats
that tournament experience.

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So I think that was a huge part
of what helped me in the pro space

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as well was that tournament experience.

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And now in the pro space as well, it's the same,
like getting your practice reps in and getting

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that tournament match experience in, that
really helps you compete at the highest level.

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And then also just having the support system
that's necessary to provide the resources

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and just create the structure that's
needed to have those practices and be able

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to participate in those tournaments.

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And we've been fortunate with IU that we've
had that internal Indiana University support

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and then also outside support, whether it's
coaches like Timber or people like John Moorin

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who are alum, that have really helped create
the resources and structure for us to excel.

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So I think that's also what makes IU unique.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: It is really inspiring how
supportive the Indiana University community is,

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whether you're a student at IU or an alum
who's really interested in making an impact.

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And John, as you were talking about
your experience as a tennis player

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and then having a lot of success
in the pickleball space as well,

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and now it sounds like coming back,
supporting this group of students,

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I'd love any reflection you have on how you
see our students really embracing pickleball

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at Indiana University very
successfully for national championships,

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and some of the reflection you may have around
their training and what it takes really to win

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at this level, consistently, year over year.

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&gt;&gt; John Moorin: Well, I think
Mehv kind of hit it on the head.

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I mean, it really takes a lot of repetition and
it also takes some coaching because, you know,

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the difference between good and great
sometimes can be a small thing here or there.

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And, you know, hopefully what I'm trying
to bring is the ability to kind of look

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at what's going on and break
down a few things and, you know,

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bring some of that experience I have.

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I still play competitively at
a senior professional level.

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So I'm around some of the best teachers in
the country, because usually as you get older,

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you think you know everything, you know, and
I'm no exception, even though I really don't.

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But it's fun to try to then give some of those
experiences, you know, back to, you know,

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the younger generation, of some of the
situations I've been in and, you know,

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kind of the mentality of what it takes to win
and, you know, grind things out to, you know,

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to get up, to get on the side of getting a win.

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We've got a great group of people and, you
know, Timber's really the glue to all that.

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I mean, he's been a fantastic
organizer, cheerleader, admin person.

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And I think that the reason that I'm here,
strictly, is to try to maybe help coach some

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of these players so that we can take
them up a half level or a quarter level,

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so that when it comes down to crunch time,
that maybe they've got some coaching that some

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of these other kids don't have, and hopefully
it makes a difference on the court for IU.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: That's so inspiring.

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As you were talking about the competitiveness
of the team, gosh, in all of these matches

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that you all play, the national titles that you
all have, everyone loves a good rivalry, right?

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Can you all talk a little bit
about the old oaken paddle?

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I have heard -- I know, Timber, I
want you to get us started on this,

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because I'd love to know what that rivalry
looks like and what the old oaken paddle is.

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&gt;&gt; Timber Tucker: So, we had
the idea a couple of years ago,

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obviously taking after the old oaken bucket.

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I got a bourbon barrel donated and
my uncle, shout out to Uncle Jim,

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Uncle Jim cut a a paddle out of the barrel.

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So it's an old oaken paddle.

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And for two years now, we've played
Purdue in a dual meet and we are 2 and 0.

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But here's the -- what I really want to share
about that is the uniqueness of pickleball

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in general and especially college pickleball.

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I mean, I grew up in southern Indiana.

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I was taught to hate Purdue
like I was supposed to.

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You know, that's what you're
taught when you're a Hoosier.

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But pickleball, it is so almost
kumbaya at the college level.

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Now, there's some competition going on, and I
mean some real, you know, some real rivalries,

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but I kind of helped Purdue get their team
started, and no one is a bigger supporter

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of IU pickleball than the Purdue team.

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We're very, very close friends.

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Now, they're getting better, so
it's getting a little more heated.

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They did beat us, not in the
paddle, but they did beat us.

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Carter Maris was part of the
only defeat Purdue's ever gotten

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on us, but we got revenge on them.

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But so in the national championship,
Purdue got knocked out of the Sweet 16.

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Okay? We won our Sweet 16 match
and went on to the Elite 8.

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So we're all sitting there in
this incredibly competitive match.

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Mehv and Carter were both playing.

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And I looked behind me, and
the entire Purdue team has come

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and sat behind us in our cheering section.

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And I looked around at the team captain, his
name's Sebastian, and I kind of put my hand

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on my heart like, "Thank you" and he said,
"Don't put this on social media" [laughs].

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But at the national championships
this year, a different championship,

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I was out with my team having supper
and I get a text from the Purdue team

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and they're like, "What are you doing?"

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Like, "Well, I'm having supper.

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I'm just finishing up supper with my team."

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They said, "Well, when you're
done, come over to our condo.

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We're playing poker and watching
the basketball game."

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I'm thinking, I don't think a lot of
Indiana coaches are getting invites

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from the Purdue team to come over and hang out.

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And that's just what I love.

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Like, all these, everybody else on this screen
is five times the pickleball player I am,

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but I always say my favorite part of
pickleball is waiting to play pickleball.

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Just hanging out.

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The community is unbelievable.

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And the same thing on our team.

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Just the community and getting
to know other teams.

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I've got a million stories about other teams.

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It's just one of the -- it's
one of the sweetest.

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We're in a world right now that
doesn't have a lot of sweetness.

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And I feel like this is a sweet part of
the world, that I hope we can protect.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: Oh, I love that reflection.

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And it is so true.

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I was looking through some of the
things, you all do such a great job

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with your social media, and it really does.

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There's something really unique about
being incredibly competitive, right, Mehv?

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I mean, you're playing at
the professional level.

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Carter, I know it sounds like you've
had a family affair with pickleball.

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We can be competitive and still be
fiercely protective of the community,

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right, that we get to be a part of?

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And it looks like from some of the other really
competitive teams that you all get to interface

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with that there's this shared
respect and love of the game,

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which I think is really, really cool.

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And something that, to your point, Timber,
is probably something to cherish right now.

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And so, I love what Indiana University
is doing with the pickleball team.

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And it also is just really wonderful
that we're doing really good.

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I mean, I think it's very fun to win, right?

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And so, Carter, as you're
looking toward, let's see,

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coming into your sophomore
year, right, or junior year --

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&gt;&gt; Carter Maris: Sophomore, yeah.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: -- what are you most looking
forward to, coming into this next season?

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&gt;&gt; Carter Maris: Well, I'm obviously super
thankful for the coaching staff that we have.

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We're bringing on John Moorin this year, and he
has a ton of experience and I know he's going

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to be a huge help to the team, and
so I'm super excited about that.

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And I think we've obviously, like, throughout
the past year, the group has grown a lot

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and we've all gotten a lot
better and gotten a lot closer,

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and so I'm hoping we can make a couple
of national championship runs this year.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: That's exciting.

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Mehv, how about you?

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What are you looking forward to?

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&gt;&gt; Mehvish Safdar: So, my time with
IU pickleball is going to decrease,

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just being in the pro space now, but,
you know, what I hope to continue

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to do is just really instill belief in the team,
whether that's through messages or being able

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to show up or play at some of the events.

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We've got a crew that has a lot of skill and
potential, and that was something while I was

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on the team I really wanted them to realize
because, you know, they're still young

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and I think they don't necessarily know,
like, the potential that they have.

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So that's something that I
hope to continue to emphasize,

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is just how talented they are
and how well that they can do.

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And so I think that's how I hope to
contribute to the IU team mostly.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: Yeah, that's great.

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And you mentioned, I mean,
the club's grown, right?

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You say the club has grown significantly
over the past couple of years.

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I'd love to know, perhaps from
John and Timber, what you see --

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Timber, you started talking a little
bit about the power of community,

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and I think that's what makes
this group so special.

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But as people are listening and thinking, like
if you're a student and you're listening and,

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like, maybe I want to join the pickleball
team, or you're an alum and you want

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to go watch a match, can you talk a
little bit about what makes the team

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so special and how it's growing so much?

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&gt;&gt; Timber Tucker: So, I'd like, I want
to speak to that, and then I'd like John

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to speak a little bit to some
of the competitive measures.

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So, the club itself, it's a rec club.

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We do stuff on campus.

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You know, it's not necessarily competitive.

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Sometimes we call it hangover pickleball.

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Just come out and have a good time.

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And there's 600 or 700 people in that group.

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This year, we're restructuring a little bit to
where we're going to have 'the varsity team',

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we can't really call it that, but the high
level competitive travel team is going

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to be a little smaller.

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We may be down around 16 or so.

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That really, Carter and some of the
guys came to me last year and said,

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"We want a more varsity-like experience."

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And I was like, "Well, that means you can't
be calling me on Sunday night saying, "I'm,

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you know, I can't come to practice tomorrow
because I got a fraternity meeting or whatever."

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You know, you got to -- if it's going to be
varsity, we got to treat it like varsity.

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So, that's really when we brought John in.

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And John was very much saying,
"Listen, if we're going to do this,

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we got to take care of these kids."

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There's a lot of money in pickleball right
now, and there's certainly a lot of people

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that are interested in getting to and
through college kids promoting their brands,

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whether it's pickleball or not.

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And so John's been instrumental.

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You know, we've got a budget, a six-figure
budget this year we're trying to raise,

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and maybe a little bit more
next year because we'd

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like to start offering our
version of some scholarships.

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That's kind of in the plans.

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But what really -- the best thing
we did this year was bring John on.

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And it's not just John.

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We've got Carter's dad, Matt, helps coach.

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And Kirby and Courtney Shedd have been a
huge part of this program and got us started,

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and they've moved a little further away
so it's harder for them to be a part,

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but they're still part of the staff.

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But so, John, could you take over and
talk a little bit about, you know,

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both on and off the court, what it's
going to take us to be competitive?

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&gt;&gt; John Moorin: Yeah, I mean, you
know, off the court, we're, you know,

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I'm working hard with Timber and the rest of
the team to try to, you know, raise enough money

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so that, you know, if we're going to travel
to these events, the kids don't have to worry

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about hotel and airfare and, you
know, just like the experience I had

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when I played college sports, right?

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I mean, I didn't have to -- I wasn't
paying entry fees to go play, you know,

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Northwestern in the Big 10, right?

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So the alumni have been pretty generous so far.

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We got some fundraisers.

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We're off to a pretty good start.

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We've got some manufacturers
that have given us sponsorships.

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So I think there's more money in the
program probably this year than last year,

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and we hope to maybe make sure that, you know,
the kids don't have to call their parents

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and say, "Hey, you know, we
need to go do this and I,

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you know, you need to come out of pocket."

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So that's kind of the goal.

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So we've got some fundraising
things that we're going to do.

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We've got some gear that we're having made up.

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We think there's a big IU alumni association
that'll help support us with some of that stuff.

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We've gotten some donations.

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I'm sitting at Pickle on Penn right
now and I have to shout them out.

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They're giving, talking about competitiveness.

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So, we're working pretty hard this summer to try
to bring the levels up with some of the people,

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because as Timber said earlier, it's really the
women are going to be super instrumental in this

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for us and losing Mehv is a huge blow.

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We're hoping we can get her
for one or two events.

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But we have some younger people that
we think we might be able to develop.

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I don't know if we can get them to that level.

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Mehv is the first college pickleball player
to ever sign a professional contract.

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So that was a big win for her and
a big feather in the cap for IU.

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But, so we're out here a couple of days
a week, but really what I think it takes

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to win is it's got to take focus,
passion, and repetitiveness, right?

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And the ability to listen.

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I mean, I remember when I
was, you know, being coached,

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I always didn't like what I was hearing, but
ultimately, you have to trust the process that,

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you know, the people that are watching have
enough experience and they're seeing things

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that you need to maybe key on and stuff that,
you know, to take them to a different level.

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So, the kids have been great so far.

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I think they've all been pretty enthusiastic.

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We've had some great team practices and we
continue to do that a couple times a week.

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They're growing.

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Practices are growing.

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I think the intensity is growing,
the play is getting better.

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You can see the improvement coming.

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So, you know, I think we've got a pretty
good chance of making some runs this year.

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&gt;&gt; Timber Tucker: So, we have --
John mentioned Pickle on Penn,

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which has been amazing this
summer, what they've done for us.

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We have a couple other supporters,
our very first and biggest,

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Six Zero paddles, it's pickleball company.

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They signed us to a big contract last year.

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They've been great, they're
a blast to work with.

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And one of the cool things
they did, they gave us a code.

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They're one of the top paddle companies.

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If you go to their website and you buy
something and you type in the code Hoosiers,

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you get 10% off, and then 10%
of the sale comes to the club.

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And that's been worth about
$300 or $400 a month for us.

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That's a big deal for us, and we appreciate
everybody that's been a part of that.

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And, yeah, it's just we need more of that.

00:24:03.746 --> 00:24:05.876 align:middle
And we've got a couple other
ones out there as well.

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I told the kids this year, my goal is
for their uniforms, they're going to look

00:24:09.506 --> 00:24:11.906 align:middle
like NASCAR drivers by the
time we get done with them.

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&gt;&gt; John Moorin: Yeah.

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One of the medical manufacturers
I deal with gave us $10,000.

00:24:15.916 --> 00:24:18.316 align:middle
They're a regenerative medicine company.

00:24:18.706 --> 00:24:22.366 align:middle
we've got a local pergola
company that the Bertolinis own.

00:24:22.416 --> 00:24:23.646 align:middle
They stepped up nicely.

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A couple of the IU, my former IU tennis
teammates have written checks for us.

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So, it's been great and I think
there's more in the works,

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and so we're super excited with the sport.

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I think bringing some of these practices
into Indianapolis, the Carmel area,

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has been really helpful because
it's given us some exposure.

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Because I think sometimes there's a
disconnect between Bloomington and Indianapolis

00:24:48.176 --> 00:24:49.746 align:middle
and Carmel and some of these other cities.

00:24:50.016 --> 00:24:54.716 align:middle
I noticed that when I graduated from IU,
like they didn't know anything that was going

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on about IU tennis and, you
know, didn't really seem to care.

00:24:57.306 --> 00:24:59.976 align:middle
So, we're going to try to make them
care a little bit about IU pickleball.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: Well, in a time right now
where pickleball is just booming, right?

00:25:03.836 --> 00:25:04.906 align:middle
I mean, it's everywhere.

00:25:04.906 --> 00:25:07.576 align:middle
My husband and I, we're going
to join a pickleball league.

00:25:07.576 --> 00:25:09.766 align:middle
There's pickleball leagues
all over the place, right?

00:25:09.766 --> 00:25:11.896 align:middle
I mean, pickleball is having a moment.

00:25:11.896 --> 00:25:18.406 align:middle
And I think for Indiana University and
for our team here, the support, John,

00:25:18.406 --> 00:25:22.586 align:middle
that you and Timber are talking
about with folks, alumni, businesses,

00:25:22.586 --> 00:25:25.266 align:middle
other investors coming in and saying,
"Gosh, we want to be a part of this

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because of the dedication and the passion and
the resilience and persistence of our students",

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I think, is what is most inspiring, right?

00:25:34.516 --> 00:25:38.736 align:middle
Because Carter, I know you and Mehv, you
all are here for to learn and to grow.

00:25:38.736 --> 00:25:40.466 align:middle
You're students of Indiana University.

00:25:40.706 --> 00:25:44.346 align:middle
You're giving a lot of your
time to this incredible sport,

00:25:44.346 --> 00:25:49.126 align:middle
and I think that is something really inspiring
and it does inspire other people to say,

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"I want to get involved in
this thing that's happening."

00:25:51.466 --> 00:25:55.096 align:middle
So, as we are wrapping up, I'd
love to hear any reflection

00:25:55.746 --> 00:26:00.586 align:middle
on where you hope the Indiana University
pickleball team is headed next.

00:26:00.856 --> 00:26:05.856 align:middle
You know, we've got -- Mehv, I love the fact
that you are one of the first, you said first,

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collegiate pickleball players
to go professional.

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That is incredible.

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And I think something to be said about probably
the testament of the dedication you've had

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to this sport and inspiring other people,
the other 300 or 400 people who have signed

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up to play pickleball at IU, to be
inspired to do something similar.

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And Carter, I know you said you've shared a
lot of this experience with your older brother.

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I'd love to hear your reflection,
before we wrap,

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on where you hope Indiana University's
pickleball team's headed in the future.

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&gt;&gt; Carter Maris: Yeah, I can start on this one.

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I obviously have loved my experience at
IU and loved being on the pickleball team.

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I feel like there's people that I meet
through pickleball that I've had connections

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with that have taken me places
that I can't even imagine.

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I've built so many great
relationships through pickleball.

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Being able to play with my brother,
obviously, is always a good time.

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I wish I would have had the
chance to play with him one year

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at IU, but he graduated as I came in.

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So we share fun times playing in tournaments
together outside of the collegiate space.

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But, for IU pickleball, I mean,
obviously, it continues to grow.

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I have people who come up to me like on a weekly
basis that ask me about IU pickleball and ask me

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about the club and how they can get involved.

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So I always try to, you know, push the club
as much as I can and tell them to come out

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and try out, because whether
it's on the rec side

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or on the competitive side,
there's a space for everyone.

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So, I just hope we can continue
to grow and continue

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to build the amazing community
that we already have.

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&gt;&gt; Mehvish Safdar: Yeah, I think
Carter spoke to that very nicely,

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especially what he was saying there at the end.

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Like, I hope IU pickleball continues to just be
a space for everyone, which is what it has been.

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Whether you just want to play socially and
meet people, you're a freshman and, you know,

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just want to connect, or whether
you have dreams of going pro,

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it's proven to be a pathway to play pro as well.

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So, I think just IU being that
vehicle for a good time, well,

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hopefully a good time either way,
whether you're just playing socially

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or with goals of playing professionally.

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But yeah, that it continues just to be a
space for everyone and there are the resources

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and structure to pave the way for whatever you
want it to be, which we've been fortunate that,

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again, we've had the support systems and
the people that are dedicated to doing that.

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&gt;&gt; Timber Tucker: For me,
I mean, I love winning.

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I love going out and, you know, being
a part of something that's so good.

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But for me, it's really the students.

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And, Mehv, I've said this to Mehv at least 10
times, she would be one of my favorite people

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on the planet if she had never
picked up a pickleball paddle.

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&gt;&gt; John Moorin: Amen.

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&gt;&gt; Timber Tucker: And I'm
really glad she did, but.

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And then last week it was so funny.

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Carter called me and he was in the car with
his brothers and we talked for like an hour.

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And I got off the phone and my wife
Christine said, "Who are you talking to?"

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And I said, "The Maris boys."

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And she said, "What did they want?"

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I was like, "We were just chatting.

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We were just talking."

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And she goes, "You need more
age appropriate friends."

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And I was like, "No, I really don't.

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I love hanging out with these people.

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They're a blast."

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And so, and I'm so excited this year
that John Moorin has joined the team,

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because now I'm not the oldest
person in the program.

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So, he beats me by a year.

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So, but it's been the time of my life.

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&gt;&gt; John Moorin: Yeah.

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And then for me, you know, again,
I, you know, winning's important.

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It's not everything, but I hope
we have some nice victories.

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I hope we beat Purdue.

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I hope we continue to grow the program.

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I think we've got a good chance at that.

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I think one thing we haven't mentioned
on this is, you know, Carter Maris is --

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we had two all-Americans last year at IU.

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Mehv was one, but Carter
Maris is also first team.

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Carter is also an all-American and
he comes from an unbelievable family.

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He's an unbelievable leader and I look for,
you know, continued great things from him.

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It's super fun as, you know, as I am older than
dirt at this point, it's fun to kind of work

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with young people with great energy that are
great and to, you know, have fun with them.

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So I guess my reflection is, yeah, I want to,
you know, continue to try to grow the program.

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You know, we're in talks
with some shoe manufacturers.

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We're in talks with some gear people.

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So to try to bring more, you know, money to
the program, more notoriety to the program.

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You know, get some good wins, hang some more
banners, and just kind of enjoy the ride along

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with what Timber's really built and started.

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&gt;&gt; Nattie Meador: Well, this conversation surely
has inspired me, and I can't wait to come out

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and watch some of the pickleball
matches as well.

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So, I really appreciate each of you
taking time to share a little bit

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about your experience and
perspective on the team.

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We certainly have loved listening and
hearing more about the pickleball team.

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So, until next time, if you are a longtime
player or you're just getting started,

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we hope this conversation inspired you today.

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The dedication, focus, passion, competitiveness
of our collegiate pickleball team is inspiring.

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It is a reminder of the power of
the Indiana University community.

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And like Timber said, the best thing about
pickleball is waiting to play pickleball.

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So go play pickleball.

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We Are IU, and we can't wait
to chat with you again soon.

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&gt;&gt; Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us
for another episode of We Are IU,

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